Blood, Sweat & T Shirts: Update

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Bloody Sweat Shirts

If you missed Newsnight last night (let’s face it - you did), then you won’t have seen the ghastly Georgina or the imbecile Stacey from Blood, Sweat & T Shirts talking with Paxman and a lady representing British clothing retailers. Unsurprisingly, Stacey was incapable of stringing a sentence together and Georgina rambled and blathered her way through whatever it was she was trying to say (I didn’t catch most of it as I only speak English).

What was fun though, was to observe that, even after spending six weeks living and working in the sweatshops and cotton fields of India, these two still arrived on the Newsnight sofa dressed to the nines in High Street fashions. At one point, Georgina explained to the Paxmeister that she still shopped on the High Street, only now she was much more aware of where her clothes came from. The problem for both Stacey and herself, she explained, was that it was terribly difficult for them to find out from clothes manufacturers where their garments were sourced. Oh? Wel,l that’s alright then.

So, despite knowing the pseudo-1980s rubbish she’s clobbered-up in is made by four year olds living in a puddle of dead dogs, rats, piss and shit, she still continues to wear the stuff anyway. Only now she’s blaming the clothes manufacturers for not clearly labelling their products.

“It’s so terribly hard to tell if your clothes have been made in a toilet by a little boy on 30p a year when the labels don’t say ‘This item is made in a slum in Bombay by children’, isn’t it Stacey?”

“I fink, like, that … erm … yes, like, I fink it is, like, yeah?”

So … good to see the whole experiment wasn’t in vain, then.

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59 Responses to “Blood, Sweat & T Shirts: Update”

  1. Swineshead Says:

    I missed that.

    Why hasn’t Stephen Beale been sectioned yet?

  2. george Says:

    Where does everybody buy their clothes then? Let’s not be hypocrites.

  3. Napoleon Says:

    I buy mine from all over the place, George. However, unlike these morons, I don’t go on national television and bang on about the terrible conditions in sweatshops whilst wearing clothes made in sweatshops.

  4. Napoleon Says:

    “Why hasn’t Stephen Beale been sectioned yet?”

    He’s run off after trying to kill Fat Pat.

  5. george Says:

    Ah, so you’re only an idiot if you buy clothes from shops that use sweatshops and are aware of this if you happen to vent this idea on TV?

  6. piqued Says:

    I get mine from George George

  7. piqued Says:

    Mmm, I’d wager you’re more of an idiot if you can’t fucking well make a clear point when you comment

  8. george Says:

    I’m only wondering, because with this one and the origianl one you all seem to be on one hand rightly pointing out that buying clothes from places you know use sweatshops is a tad immoral but on the other hand insulting people who indulge in expensive clothes (which, generally, don’t tend to use sweatshops as Korean 8 year olds can’t really make decent enough trousers to warrant selling at £200). I mean, obviously, if you buy clothes at a cheap enough price (H&M, Topman, Matalan etc) then there’s got to be some exploitation somewhere?

  9. george Says:

    You seemed to understand it OK Piqued.

  10. Swineshead Says:

    George’s last comment didn’t make any sense, I agree Monsieur Piqued.

    My clothes are generally bought by my better half as I never get round to going to clothes shops (unless it’s shirts for work). So I basically wear whatever’s bought for me.

    Before I met her… I would only buy from charity shops or steal clothes from bins / parties / the homeless.

  11. Swineshead Says:

    George – like buying meat, it’s hard to know where your products come from. But you get people who buy an item of clothing, wear it once, then chuck it because it was so cheap. These people are idiots.

    And watch your grammar, you sound like a mong.

  12. piqued Says:

    No George, you tit, I didn’t understand it, hence ‘you can’t fucking well make a clear point when you comment’

  13. george Says:

    Fuck it, I’ll drop the pretence: Unless you all buy expensive clothes (which you don’t, I’d bet, as you take the piss out of people that do) then there’s no difference between these blathering morons and yourselves.

  14. george Says:

    SH: to quote the article: So, despite knowing the rubbish you’re clobbered-up in is made by four year olds living in a puddle of dead dogs, rats, piss and shit, (come on, if a shirt says ‘made in Pakistan and costs 3 quid in a shop…) you still continue to wear the stuff anyway. Only now you’re blaming the clothes manufacturers for not clearly labelling their products.

  15. Swineshead Says:

    Yes there is George. We don’t go shopping every weekend (well – I don’t for one) and we don’t go on TV making twats of ourselves.

    In fact, there are hundreds and thousands of differences, so fuck off.

  16. Napoleon Says:

    George – I was making the point that these imbeciles hadn’t learned a damn thing from their Indian adventure, as was witnessed by turning up on Newsnight wearing sweatshop fashions. The question of whether or not buying cheaply-made clothing is immoral or not does not concern me, only the behaviour and ignorance of these fools on the original show, and the two girls’ clear illustration that they’d learned precisely nothing on last night’s Newsnight. At no point have any of us got up on high horses about our anti-sweatshop sentiments. It’s an entirely different issue.

    As for expensive stuff not being made by children. Heard of Nike?

  17. Swineshead Says:

    George, you’re an idiot.

  18. Swineshead Says:

    Yep – Nike. And Diesel. And Adidas.

    I bet George is dressed in recycled toilet roll.

  19. piqued Says:

    Has he gone yet?

    Btw, I bought a GAP t-shirt a few weeks ago for a fiver in one of their sales, bargain by anyone’s standards. And lets face it, those tiny foreign fingers literally bleed quality

  20. Napoleon Says:

    Couldn’t agree more, Piqued. I bought two TESCO t-shirts for a fiver, and they ACHED Malaysian three year old quality. You have to hand it to the little ones.

    *gallops off to join the hunt*

  21. george Says:

    Oh, right then, I thought you were sneering at the fact that they wore sweatshop made clothes knowing full well where they game from. My mistake.

  22. Napoleon Says:

    There’s a song on the ‘making of’ documentary on the 300 DVD that’s driving me up the wall. It starts up just after one of the Unterpantzen Ubermenchen (stolen from Joe Queenan) kills a Rhino, and the costume designer says, ‘I love a Nazi in tight leather underpants …’ What the hell’s that song? Is it from Ride of the Valkyries?

  23. Napoleon Says:

    “Oh, right then, I thought you were sneering at the fact that they wore sweatshop made clothes knowing full well where they game from. My mistake.”

    That’s alright, George. I know full-well where my clothes from, and have never once complained about the awful conditions of Asian workers because such an action would make me a hypocrite. It’s the same thing that prevents me banging on (for about five minutes) about Tibet – I’ll allow myself the right to complain when I stop buying stuff that’s made in China.

  24. badgermadge Says:

    So… Is it OK that I know that Primark clothes are bad, and yet buy most of my stuff from there? I do feel kinda bad, but then I’m soooo broke at the moment (for at the moment, see for the foreseeable future until I can marry a millionaire and go shopping at Prada every day). For example – I’ve just lost 3 stone, so I need (at least) new underwear (not to mention new clothes, but am making do with belts etc for now as I’m so brassick). Going to pop to Pmark on Tuesday to stock up. Is that a Very Bad Thing?

    *kinda finds it funny that I’m asking WWM about moral issues*

  25. Clarys Says:

    I can also second Badger Madge on this, for I have also lost weight (she beats me though, I’m only on 2 stone).

    It’s impossible to buy a new wardrobe without going to places like Primark/Tesco/Asda, unless you literally swim in money. You can’t win.

  26. Clarys Says:

    Oh, and I could understand what George was saying, and sometimes you lot can be a tad on the harsh side!

    *awaits barrage of abuse*

  27. badgermadge Says:

    Yes, I could understand George too. Unless y’all walk around in Eco-friendly clothing (which is silly expensive) or bin liners, then you can’t really take the moral high ground, whether you’re on TV harping on about it or not…

    Nice one Clarys on the weight loss! x

  28. John Q Wagonwheel Says:

    Hello. I wear Primark clothes, otherwise how’d the little kiddlywinks in foreignland buy their 3 grains o’ rice?

    Incidentally, there’s frankly little difference in quality between a Primark and a Prada jacket. It’s just a label and most of it’s still produced using ‘exploitative’ labour. I don’t complain about it though, as a person with no real global political ambition, I am not going to be a bleeding-heart hypocrite like yourself. Hell, at least my 20p goes to buy them a few more bits of rice or dust or whatever these foreign types fill ‘emselves with. Plus they’re getting exercise.

  29. John Q Wagonwheel Says:

    I said the same thing twice. That’s because I’m deep.

  30. Gilbert Wham Says:

    There’s quite a lot of difference between a garment made for Prada and a garment made for Primark, as it goes. CMT (cut make & trim) on high-end stuff is a lot better, plus Prada et al are made in Italy by union workers in rather nice factories. I work in the rag trade, so I NOEZ, YEAH? This also means I steal most of my clothes from work, which is nice.

  31. Gilbert Wham Says:

    I still look like a fat, drunken tramp, mind.

  32. John Q Wagonwheel Says:

    Yeah but from a distance… *cough*

  33. badgermadge Says:

    OK, fair point. But I was talking the difference between high-end highstreet like Topshop, Oasis and FCUK, and Primark. Why should I buy a vest in Topshop for £30, when Primark does it for £2 – especially when both employ sewer kids for 1p a day?

  34. Clarys Says:

    Thanks, BM! And well done to yourself too – good work!

    Ok good, I’m glad I’m not too alone in the understanding stakes…

  35. John Q Wagonwheel Says:

    Prada T-shirts are a crock of shite though. I tried on one from the sale rack in Saks Fifth Avenue on Rodeo Drive for a laugh. Sale, mind. $369, pretty flimsy material, black loosely-fitted t-shirt, print design on the front that was so dark you couldn’t see it.

    Crock of shite.

  36. Napoleon Says:

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  37. Swineshead Says:

    Has anyone actually taken the moral high ground?
    No is the answer.

    So, Clarys, BM and George, you’re arguing a point that hasn’t even been raised.

  38. derekbelm Says:

    Napolean, Mr (et al),

    I am currently considering branching out from model-making into designing my own range of clothing – the House of Belm – and would be interested in finding some cheap labour to make the actual factual garments.

    Has yourself or any of your other fellow mothers got any numbers for these sweat shops? The less I have to pay other people, the more money I get to make.

    I tend to boycott TV so I’m unfamiliar with the programmes of which you write about and stuff. Maybe they had contact details for the sweat shops?

    Derek (Mr) Belm.

  39. moloveschips Says:

    i didnt think the girls from this programme were stupid, the stupid people are the ones who find it funny to mock the garment industry. i was impressed that after ging on blood sweat and t shirts that they were raising money for the indian school and just because they turned up at the newsnight programme in fashionable clothes doesnt mean they were all made in a sweatshop, its easy to criticise people when they are on the tv but at least they are raising some awareness and have experienced the garment making industry first hand. there will always be a demand for cheap clothes but whether you buy from primark or prada doesnt matter on the larger scale. what matters is raisng awareness and helping the people who are the real victims.

  40. Badger Madge Says:

    Oh that’s good because I’m aware of sweatshops. Excellent. I can go to the Oxford St Pmark this Tuesday and not feel guilty then.

  41. Swineshead Says:

    Mo definitely loves chips.

  42. Napoleon Says:

    Mo – What is this ‘raising awareness’ shit? Most people don’t need to follow the exploits of six vacuous dunderheads to find out cheap clothes are made in sweatshops in the Third World. We know already. This ‘raising awareness’ issue of yours seems to translate into ‘informing stupid people about the bloody obvious’. Here, have you ever noticed those great big stone things in town centres old people put poppy wreaths on once a year? You’ll never guess, but they’re there to commemorate the dead of two global wars. I’m hoping BBC3 will send six bone-headed imbeciles to the battlefields of France so they can ‘raise awareness’ of this issue. TRY PAYING ATTENTION TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN SHOPPING.

  43. Napoleon Says:

    And where’s the fucking Apprentice review? AGAIN!

  44. Clarys Says:

    Hang on, hang on, I think all BM and I were saying is that we understood George’s point – nothing to do with agreeing with it, or even that it was relevant, merely that I understood what he was trying to say – as people seemed to be saying he made no sense etc? That was all, honest.

  45. Napoleon Says:

    George was having a go at us for something we weren’t saying, Clarys. And where’s that bloody Apprentice review? Eh?

  46. piqued Says:

    I need a trog

  47. Napoleon Says:

    A trog?

  48. Swineshead Says:

    It’s almost done, you shitfaced bastard

  49. lou Says:

    i have say i stayed up to watch this and wish i had infact spent my time sleeping!! i wasted like 20 mins of my life! georgina just tried to shove stacey out way and get as much as she could in? after fame now perhaps? and they just said the same thing over and over again!

  50. Mr.Chipz Says:

    There are some very long sentences on this here comments page. Please remember to punctuate, some of us can only read aloud because we have to drown out the clamour in our heads and I nearly ran out of breath. More than once.
    I saw a few moments of this show and turned over, there was some young thing picking her way through a street full of all shit and she was dressed like a village idiot. No style at all. It looked as if she’d been dressed by a couple of five year old girls with free access to their mum’s old wardrobe. Now if you want style, you need to take a leaf from my book. Corduroys worn at the knee, chunky Clarks shoes and a tank top. Complete with mortarboard. That’s the look to have my fashionable friends.

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  52. Napoleon Says:

    Chipz – Don’t forget the stinking breath, wab eye and wandering hands – essentials for any budding educator/molestor.

  53. Penry Says:

    I managed to sit through no more than a couple of minutes of this last week before I realised I really should just switch off my television more often, so I can’t claim to be an expert.
    I also haven’t made any real effort to read through all the surrounding correspondence, but I just had to comment on the satan’s cock sucking excrement that is Richard. In the linked blog he accused everyone of jumping on the band wagon and of having no original thoughts of their own. And how did he start his noble tirade against appropriation of thought? By nicking a quote from Good Will Hunting! Sometimes you really can’t make it up.
    I’m hoping he tries to make out his was being ironic!

  54. sarah Says:

    i am a morom so there !!!!!!!!!! dont dis us we rule !!!!!

  55. Napoleon Says:

    Sarah

    1. Well done.
    2. ‘Don’t dis us’ means nothing whatsoever.
    3. You rule what? Are you a member of the royal family?
    4. Show us your knickers.

  56. sarah Says:

    i just wanted to put it out there

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