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but the difference between ‘s about and bb is that all those participants shown of ‘s about were fine with what happened to them. those who weren’t ok with the pranks weren’t shown. with bb contestants sign their lives away and are horribly exploited.
a lot of people (my mum included) saw ‘s about as a bullying programme, but i think jezza and his lot respected those featured on the show, which is a lot more than could be said for the producers of bb, wife swap et al.
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“a lot of people (my mum included) saw ’s about as a bullying programme, but i think jezza and his lot respected those featured on the show, which is a lot more than could be said for the producers of bb, wife swap et al.”
I’d agree that it’s a form of bullying. It’s like the person on the front row of a stand up gig who gets humiliatwed, yet is still required by social pressure to take it in good humour. And it’s not like the plasterer who get’s his van pushed into an estury is aware of the instrinsic comic value while he’s bawling himself hoarse. As an audience you are laughing at PAIN, and I think it’s the begging of a strand of entertainment which has led up to the ones what you mentioned.
And can anyone who can make a convincing argument for the Go-Lightly family?
All this except for the alien landing one, which is copper bottomed comedy gold.
Wally, Badger. As you laugh at someone’s (organised) ‘pain’ you’re also sympathising with them, if you weren’t it wouldn’t be funny…
Remember also that the people on Beadle’s show would have had to sign a release form to allow themselves to be shown in such a way. This makes the people shown ‘suffering’ as being wholly self-deprecating (and usually after being set up by their families precisely because they had a sense of humour in the first place) for this reason Beadle was able to say, without impunity, ‘the star of the show is you’.
Schadenfreude is the purest form of comedy as it’s linked directly to the human condition. All the comedy greats employ this, from Hancock to Partridge. For heavens sake CHILL THE FUCK OUT.
i see BB contestants and Beadle’s About featured people totally different. BB contestants are manipulated, and hung out to dry (whether knowingly or not). Beadle’s About featured people had senses of humours – the fact that many of them signed release forms shows they didn’t mind people laughing WITH them. as i said above, those that didn’t sign, weren’t shown.
“Schadenfreude is the purest form of comedy as it’s linked directly to the human condition. All the comedy greats employ this, from Hancock to Partridge. For heavens sake CHILL THE FUCK OUT.”
Yeah, but it comes in many levels, as the Swines head says, there’s a different laughter at the scripted wonder of Hancock or Partridge, or the hypnotic physicality of Frank Spencer’s exquisite pratfalls, to some builder in a hat roaring in naked agony as his livelihood gurgles to the bottom of the Thames. Perhaps it has something to do with the inherent impotence of anger. Or maybe Beadle was staging a modernist revival of the Artaud/Genet notion of ‘theatre of cruelty’ aimed specifically in our passive, capitalist FACES. Or maybe it was a load of fat people smashing up a cake shop while the Saturday girl weeps. Whatever gets you off I suppose.
My point is, scripted or not, as soon as that release form is signed the person being filmed is no longer a hapless member of the public but part of an organised skit.
Besides, the member of public is acting as a result of a constructed pre-designed set of circumstances, to wit, you can argue that it has been written as the outcome is largely a known quantity through design, not accident.
Wally, save your condemnation for Edmonds’ (late) Late Late Late Breakfast show in which his producers killed someone.
The producers had designed and plotted a scenario to get a quantified reaction. What you saw on Beadle was a participant, not a ‘victim’. Think of it as improvised comedy if you like…
Yes, when it was actually filmed only those present witnessed a person in distress, when you see it on TV you’re seeing this distress by proxy. It’s really not the same thing, one is a situation, the other is a permitted epithet of it via it’s being broadcast.
Wally it is relevant. Edmonds (producers) got them to sign the release form before, i.e., ‘you are going to be laughed at shitting yourself/in distress etc., sigh here’
Piqued, though I don’t agree with wally’s point that Beadle was bullying anyone, his argument at least carries some logic. Yours doesn’t. It’s not ‘improvised’ – it’s ‘actual’ footage of someone in distress!
Come on guys, what aboot that withered hand? When I was at school, we’d hold our hands out as if to shake hands with someone, then on the moment of contact scrunch our hand up and make it all tiny and deformed and cry, “Hah! You’ve been Beadled!”
Ahem – he did lots of great work for charity too. RIP.
What you all seem to be pussy-footing around is the subject of Beadle’s evil, withered hand. Beadle drew his prankster power directly from that shrivelled claw of Baal, and his passing is a merciful release from the fear of coming home to find someone’s driven your van into a river. I hope the slack-spined jester gets his just desserts – in the furnaces of Hades, WHERE HE BELONGS.
Congratulations on assuming everyone is as stupid as you. Believe it or not, I can come up with sarcastic comments without the aid of a miserable Scotch comic. Are you also one of those morons who supposes everyone’s knowledge is garnered through search engines and Wikipedia?
when the participants were filmed they had no knowledge of the prank. thus they’re not willing. thus it’s different than if someone approached them BEFORE the prank and said “we’re going to do a prank on you, sign this.”
do you see? DO YOU SEE?
them signing it afterwards is them going “shucks, you got me, let’s all laugh together.” them signing beforehand is them going “i want to be a cog in a media machine.”
Wow. You lot really had a fun Friday. I was in Leeds watching a drunk 40 year old woman dressed as a nurse fall over in the gutter, spill her bottle of scotch, get up and try to drink from the empty bottle. It was like a Mike Leigh take on You’ve Been Framed.
I had a great Friday, actually. There’s nothing like a healthy dose of Jam And Jerusalem to persuade the missus that the bedroom’s a more attractive place to be than in front of the television watching Jam And fucking Jerusalem.