Just to draw a line under this sorry saga (and if you haven’t been in the slightest bit interested, I apologise for the recent Brand-related news triptych), the last few days of complete stupidity and insanity have ended with Russell Brand quitting his post at the BBC.
Taking the bullet for his friend, Jonathan Ross, in other words. Let’s not forget that it was the older of the two who blurted out the initial offending sentence.
I suppose, in some senses, Brand has also taken the hit on behalf of the BBC who, it has to be said, have behaved like disorganised buffoons throughout this farrago. They shouldn’t have put the recording out in the first place. They should have organised a public apology on behalf of all parties immediately and they should have ignored all the tabloid speculation.
But the real arseholes in this Kafkaesque trial by second hand information are – as usual – the tabloid press. Without the Mail picking up on the story and hypocritically running it endlessly (thus, presumably, adding to Mr Sachs’ embarassment) and without printing tittilating pictures of the supposed ‘fuckee’, this wouldn’t have reached the ridiculous heights it broached.
The Sun also went crazy with the story – as did all the tabloids including those with a more limited circulation – your London Lites, your citywide Metros. All expressing outrage whilst regurgitating the point of Mr. Sachs embarassment. Bizarre, eh?
To compound the weirdness, it seems Georgina Baillie has now signed up with Max Clifford – a day or so after he dumped Katona as a client. Some people are admiring of the girls guile and pluck. From where I’m sitting, it looks suspiciously like she’s exploiting the situation for personal gain. Exploiting her grandfather’s initial embarassment and milking this fabricated ‘shame’ for all its worth. I can’t believe that, by now, she’s still red-faced. Not with all those offers coming in.
The other aspect of this so-called scandal that makes it so very 2008 is the way information spread. Without Youtube, without messageboards and blogs, people wouldn’t have formed an opinion so quickly. The replay wouldn’t be available, so unless you’d taped it it’d all be hearsay.
It’s impossible to quantify whether this made the situation worse for the presenters and the BBC, but it certainly intensified the atmosphere. The web was alive with chitter and chatter and gasbag opinion. Mail readers suddenly found reason to comment on the Guardian messageboard. The papers and their websites couldn’t keep up with the bloggers who were formulating opinions left right and centre – and this aspect of the incident is something we should expect to see a lot more of in the future.
All in all, the ultimate tragedy of the whole affair is that, as a result of a very silly, vaguely amusing and massively ill-considered gag, the conservative element in the press and in the blogosphere has somehow managed to force the hand of the BBC using the most questionable tactics imaginable. They’ve also managed to make one of my favourite podcasters – a genuine talent, I feel – resign over what amounts to very little. I think that’s depressing.
It seems one squawking idiot can’t change a thing, but multiply him by a few thousand using the latest technology and soon enough you won’t be able to hear yourself think.
Tags: Andrew Sachs, BBC, Daily Mail, Georgina Baillie, Jonathan Ross, London Lite, Metro, Radio, Radio 2, Russell Brand, Satanic Sluts, Tabloids, The Sun, The UK
October 30, 2008 at 9:22 am
Well, there’s at least one positive outcome out of all this ridiculous mess – I like Russell Brand now. And I’m not the only one, I suspect.
I wasn’t going to watch Ponderland (didn’t watch it last time around) but now I’m there, oh yes.
Channel 4 must be smiling.
October 30, 2008 at 9:23 am
Ross, on the other hand, is still a twat. Even a bigger one, if anything.
October 30, 2008 at 9:24 am
Ponderland’s first series was very amusing. Thursday’s set to be a good night for comedy actually – and Brand is stand in team captain on Never Mind the Buzzcocks, I believe – good timing!
October 30, 2008 at 9:25 am
I feel a bit sorry for JR, to be honest. I don’t much like his style but this isn’t about the incident, it’s about his salary and ubiquity.
October 30, 2008 at 9:27 am
Even Jamie Theakston has an opinion on this matter. JAMIE THEAKSTON!
October 30, 2008 at 9:28 am
Salary, ubiquity and a certain lack of charm, I find. I don’t know, I’ve never liked him all that much. Bring back Barry Norman!
Still, what happened to him and Brand was wholly undeserved.
October 30, 2008 at 9:29 am
One could say Ross is in a bit of a ‘pickle’. One could say…
October 30, 2008 at 9:30 am
As we all know from Alan Partridge, Ross was technically a guest on Brand’s show and the latter failed to control him. ‘Read the smallprint on your cone-tract’.
In all seriousness though, it is a significant worry that the moral centre of all this has been dictated by the Daily Mail, a line which everyone has seemingly fallen in with.
If anyone should be sacked, shouldn’t it be the show’s producer who cleared the segment for broadcast? (I’ve not been following the online debate, but I reckon I’m probably the last person in the country to make that point).
October 30, 2008 at 9:33 am
Don’t knock Jamie. He does a very professional voiceover job on all these Motorway Cops shows that are constantly on BBC1. His voice is like a motorway scenery – just passes you by unremarkably.
October 30, 2008 at 9:34 am
Don’t you also think that Ross’s shtick will be forever tated? He thrives on controverialism (and there’s nothing wrong with that) but everytime he makes a sly remark about a celebrity people will be reminded of this case. He doesn’t speak for the public anymore, if ever he did, and that shakes his status somewhat.
Perhaps he can join Richad and Judy on that new telly channel ‘Watch’, or whatever. Dave have too much class to employ him, I fear.
October 30, 2008 at 9:35 am
Blimey, Barry’s quick…
October 30, 2008 at 9:35 am
‘tainted’
October 30, 2008 at 9:41 am
With detachment, how bizarre is it that Andrew Sachs’ is at the epicentre of a media shitstorm…
October 30, 2008 at 9:41 am
The funny thing is, as and avid fan of shitheads, I’ve followed the Sun, The Daily Mail and their screaming, hysterical readers decrying ‘political correctness’ because they feel they’re not allowed to tell racist, homophobic or generally dirty jokes in case somebody is offended. I read one comment on The Mail website that said something along the lines of ‘I’ve been bought up on a diet of Bernard Manning and Chubby Brown but this is too far.’ The sheer hypocrisy of the tabloid readers is amazing.
So why is everybody getting so worked up then? It’s an opportunistic character assassination, that’s what it is. You can tell The Daily Mail could not stand Russell before this all kicked off. Long scruffy hair, talks openly about drugs, his sexual encounters. As for Ross, he is the face of the BBC, so it’s obvious they wanted to give him a good kicking.
I’m worried about what this means for the BBC. TV is regulated heavily, the press isn’t, so if the press wants to start another smear campaign against the BBC it will most likely do more damage. What does this mean when the BBC’s license fee is renegotiated in 2012? If public Service Broadcasting ends, in this day and age, and the BBC chases ratings for advertising figures rather then putting out quality stuff, people en masse will switch to the internet for their television. Not legal sites either; illegal downloads. This could be the Franz Ferdinand moment for British television.
October 30, 2008 at 9:42 am
If a broadcast is perceived to be in bad taste, does it really matter how many people were originally listening, and that the problem came to light only because of reporting to a far wider audience? Even if only one person was listening, but the broadcast did not meet the standards required does this excuse it?
Think about Big Ron who resigned immediately, though different circumstances…..standards were breached.
As you say the real problem with the brand/ross incident is who on earth okayed it? And don’t forget YOU own the BBC.
BTW 4-4.
October 30, 2008 at 9:44 am
Mikey – Ron Atkinson broke the law. He made a racist comment.
How did RB and JR break the law?
Been advocating on behalf of the devil long?
Are you a satanic slut?
The law wasn’t broken and this is a case of sensibilities being offended, not legality so the two don’t compare in any way.
October 30, 2008 at 9:47 am
Did he break the law?
October 30, 2008 at 9:47 am
I was waiting for somebody to compare this to racism…
October 30, 2008 at 9:49 am
This is not a comparison to racism. This is a comparison of broadcasting standards.
October 30, 2008 at 9:49 am
Dunno, but all these comments about opportunism and the green-headed monster hit the nail on the head, to my mind.
*runs off to find lynch mob ONLY because it would amuse me if Ross lost his job*
October 30, 2008 at 9:50 am
Broadcasting standards wherein one case pertains to racism. Mikey – go up to a black copper and make a racist comment. See what happens.
Of course racist abuse is against the law you tit!
October 30, 2008 at 9:51 am
The law isn’t a measure of morality, though. That’s what this, and Ron Atkinson, is actually about. I think. It’s a who watches the watchmen situation, as usual.
October 30, 2008 at 9:52 am
Go up to a female office and claim you had the sex with her, by same logic.
HOW DARE WE OBJECTIFY THE SATANIC SLUTS OF THIS WORLD.
October 30, 2008 at 9:52 am
I actually agree with the view that this story’s so huge because we’re all fed up with talking about the credit crunch.
We must talk more about the credit crunch!
October 30, 2008 at 9:52 am
Then why wasn’t Big Ron prosecuted?
I suggest the whole use of language is the context it is used. It depends who uses the language and in what context. Both cases were inappropriate.
October 30, 2008 at 9:56 am
Don’t mention the 4-4.
October 30, 2008 at 9:57 am
Because the footballer didn’t press charges, probably. But I take Wally’s point that the difference doesn’t excuse Brand in the slightest. It does prove that both instances are massively different and you should stop using Big Ron as a comparison.
Dave – office politics are even more constraining than broadcasting standards… let’s not get into that here!
October 30, 2008 at 9:58 am
fourstar – feel free to mention the 4-4.
Nothing amuses me more than the sweet irony of a team celebrating a draw like it’s a win whilst still rooted to the arse-end of the premiership. Ho ho ho!
October 30, 2008 at 10:02 am
I shagged a filing cabinet once. You could say I defiled it.
*drums*
October 30, 2008 at 10:02 am
Perhaps the comparison is not all that useful, but they do have in common, broadcasting audiences and inappropriate language.
As I think we all agree the real crux of the matter is who on Earth okayed it?
It is amazing the change in a team’s fortunes within 5 days and a change of manager.
October 30, 2008 at 10:03 am
Fucks sake, comparing informing somebody that you have shagged their granddaughter to saying ‘he comes from the school of lazy fucking n*****s’ is retarded. ITV is governed by public service broadcasting regulations. Part of these regulations, the equality and diversity policy, state that you can’t racially abuse the license payers. Surprisingly enough. However, the first example isn’t sexism. He’s informing the granddad he’s had consensual sex with his granddaughter. The only thing this would conflict with is the watershed. It was broadcast after nine, so it didn’t.
October 30, 2008 at 10:04 am
It is amazing Mikey. But it could also be the honeymoon period many managers instil – that immediate impact Zola infused for two matches before losing three on the trot. Good luck Spurs against Liverpool, eh…?
October 30, 2008 at 10:05 am
I used to put all my mitsubishis in a filing cabinet.
Sorted.
*trumpet*
October 30, 2008 at 10:06 am
Ugeine – I agree wholeheartedly – but it was tasteless and sadly there is no gauge for the nation’s moral sensibilities.
October 30, 2008 at 10:07 am
What? Mitsubishis as in the car or the pills – or what?
WHAT??!!!??!!?
October 30, 2008 at 10:11 am
Liverpool aren’t playing particularly well and are getting jitters already from their view from the top. I can see a Spurs result.
October 30, 2008 at 10:13 am
The pills… sorry, that joke’s only funny if you took a lot of ecstacy in the mid 90s.
*gurns*
October 30, 2008 at 10:15 am
I think we all know Spurs won’t finish bottom. They won’t be relegated, they won’t have the pressure of aiming for a UEFA cup place and Harry will be firmly entrenched for the start of next season. In the meantime, all the fans can hope for is Arsenal not winning anything. Again. The sad bastards.
Harry’s good at keeping teams afloat. As for major trophies he’s won in his managerial career, we can count them on one….
…finger.
October 30, 2008 at 10:16 am
I thought they were Blue Mitsubishis. They were, like, the craziest ones to take.
But I’m a new rave warrior and you’re an old timer.
I can imagine you in an old people’s home ‘back when I was a lad we could only get 1 pill for a fiver, and that was if we were lucky. And we had to make it last as well. Kids these days don’t know they’re born.’
October 30, 2008 at 10:18 am
£7.50, if I remember rightly.
Then they plummeted at the turn of the millenium.
Of course, they were much stronger in my day and this was all a field.
October 30, 2008 at 10:32 am
Great post Swineshead. Was discussing this with Piqued last night, we’re on the edge of a new age of Puritanism. While no big fan of either Ross or Brand I think them at the BBC should be fucking ashamed of themselves, I expect no better from the tabloids or the cunts who base their opinions on their shitty opinions.
October 30, 2008 at 10:47 am
Why thankyou, Chipz. I suppose it was inevitable that the rise of instant amateur publishing would result in more idiots than reasonable folk being taken seriously.
October 30, 2008 at 11:03 am
well. this is supposed to be an happy occasion. let’s not bicker and argue ’bout who shagged who…
ok. replace ross. shame about brand’s apology though. he should have went to sachs and then let him (sachs) tell the world that there has been an excuse. but sachs and family would not probably do that under the regime of clifford.
October 30, 2008 at 11:05 am
saw dead set ep 1 and 2 last night. pretty pretty good. the dixon bainbridge character is a bit over the top but otherwise very entertaining.
October 30, 2008 at 11:06 am
In news that’ll no doubt warm all your hearts, I’ve just been given a free ticket to go and see Arsenal vs Fenerbace next week for free. Free. No fee.
October 30, 2008 at 11:08 am
I miss the days when I got the free ticketz for Champions League an account of working at Old Trafford. You’re an arse, SH.
I got a free ticket to see The Wildhearts next month, it means nothing to me now.
October 30, 2008 at 11:12 am
Oh, and I’m constipated.
October 30, 2008 at 11:12 am
Christ, are they still going? I used to like them in a sort of stinky Senseless Things sort of way.
Dead Set’s got its plusses and minuses – I’m enjoying it mind. Review on Monday I think.
October 30, 2008 at 11:14 am
Yeah. I only like them because the lead guy’s called Ginger and it makes me feel like I’m not alone, as a ginger, in this bleak, cold world.
October 30, 2008 at 11:17 am
Ooooooo … I’ve a sore ‘ead. I should never have gone to the pub to watch the footy – they sell BOOZE there.
Anyway, I was with you on this until you called Brand a ‘genuine talent’. He isn’t. He’s just a silly sod for resigning over a storm in a tea cup
October 30, 2008 at 11:17 am
Swineshead, I hate you. I have a £10 ticket to see our kids play Wigan though, which might be more fun 🙂
And Georgia Baillie looks dirty.
October 30, 2008 at 11:18 am
i’m ginger too. you are not alone, mate.
say it loud etc
October 30, 2008 at 11:20 am
Silence, Indy. Wait until the day of the rising…
October 30, 2008 at 11:20 am
You’re strawberry blond, indie – all swedes are blondes. Like Jeffrey Dahmer, even though he wasn’t a swede.
To be fair, NC, I did mark that out as my opinion – which basically means ‘delete as applicable’. Glad you liked the rest anyhow.
October 30, 2008 at 11:20 am
‘Indy’, not ‘indie’.
Sorry
October 30, 2008 at 11:21 am
My ‘ead’s POUNDING. I blame Jonathan Ross for this.
October 30, 2008 at 11:29 am
I’ve just read that ‘How A Lesbian Works’ in this month’s Viz. Love the idea that a lesbian’s diet consists of whipped cream licked off another lesbian’s tits.
October 30, 2008 at 11:34 am
thanks for the advice nap. i have only had my lesbians for one month and i have fed them with chocolate sauce. i’ll swap they’re diet to whipped cream only from now.
October 30, 2008 at 11:36 am
Meeeesta Fawwwwwltie http://nicktann.blogspot.com/2008/10/simpering-twats.html
October 30, 2008 at 11:44 am
I enjoyed last month’s Jimmy Hill (As You’ve Never Seen Him Before)…
The ‘Chinnio’ segment where Jimmy runs away with the circus made me burp my balls up.
October 30, 2008 at 11:44 am
Nick of the T: totali agree.
October 30, 2008 at 11:49 am
Indy and Dave – I support you in the fight against gingerism as my husband is of the red head variety. I heart red hair (but not so keen on the see-through variety of gingers).
October 30, 2008 at 11:59 am
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1872523.ece
‘Well – seeing as it’s out there I may as well make my granddad sick’
October 30, 2008 at 12:02 pm
i’m a lucky man. my girlfriend supports gingers by dying her hair red and sporting the early ’80ies a annie lennox hairdo. miracle of love? you bet.
October 30, 2008 at 12:03 pm
That girl is the living embodiment of the word ‘integrity’.
October 30, 2008 at 12:06 pm
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1872707.ece
She truly is.
October 30, 2008 at 12:14 pm
I like that advert for a free Bond MP3 player – ‘For Your EARS Only’. Smashing.
October 30, 2008 at 12:15 pm
The Metro was quite amusing today – ‘ “I’m really happy with the investigation. Me and my granddad are both really happy because it could have damaged our reputation permanently” , the 23 year old Satanic Slut said.’
She seems like a lovely girl, worries how her Grandad doesn’t deserve any of it as he’s a nice old man, then she goes and sells her sex confessions to The Sun…
October 30, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Her kiss and tell is actually far worse than Brand’s was. Ridiculous.
October 30, 2008 at 12:19 pm
I fully endorse her grabbing at thousands of pounds for a few days work. Play the game.
October 30, 2008 at 12:21 pm
And she could hardly not offer her support to her gramps regarding this matter. She probably either doesn’t give a sod or quite like the attention. Sluts do…especially the ones with lovely the boobies and Gothic makeup. Goths are great.
October 30, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Dave misses the point and lands in the ‘idiot’ puddle again. Good work Dave!
Don’t you see the blatant hypocrisy? The disgusting similarity between her actions now and Bran’s on the radio? Difference is Brand did it for a laugh.
October 30, 2008 at 12:26 pm
I was making my own point, not your point. My own.
She has the tits of a well-fed fruit bat and that’s as valid a thing to say as anything.
October 30, 2008 at 12:26 pm
I love tits too, Dave. In fact, if I ever achieved the sort of mega-stardom of Brand, Ross, Andrew Collins or Wolf off of Gladiators, my love for all things titular would be splashed all over the tabloids in a series of lurid kiss ‘n’ tell articles.
October 30, 2008 at 12:28 pm
http://www.5cc.blogspot.com/
Brilliant article. Read it, you shits.
October 30, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Like it says, this has bugger all to do with Brand and Ross and more to do with taking a swipe at the Beeb
October 30, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Bran?
October 30, 2008 at 12:34 pm
There’s some on the radio Nappers
October 30, 2008 at 12:36 pm
These ‘outraged of Willow Lodge’ types bleating on about ‘I don’t pay my license fee for this rot’ seem incapable of realising that in dragging Thompson in off his holidays and this going all the way to the BBC Trust, they’ve actually caused a shed load of money to be spent that could have gone on something they like, such as ‘Coming of Age’.
October 30, 2008 at 12:38 pm
WILL YOU STOP CALLING ME NAPPERS, YOU BROKEN-BACKED OLD FART!
October 30, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I’m going to wait 6 years until the BBC is forced to become a commerical station. In these six years, I’m going to get the information on everybody who buys the Mail. Then, in another six years (2020) I’m going to go round to their houses, point out how our television network is basically a poor mans American Network television, then cockslap them. All of them.
October 30, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Just thought I’d say what an excellent article this is, SH – you’ve excelled yourself. To the point and accurate. Bravo.
October 30, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Thanks Quincy – and good work on solving that case involving punks n’ drugs.
October 30, 2008 at 12:52 pm
“…YOU BROKEN-BACKED OLD FART!”
I just spat coffee on my monitor. Again.
October 30, 2008 at 1:08 pm
I don’t think Quincy solved those murders. I reckon he’s got Columbo tied up in a back room, and he’s forcing him to solve crimes that Quincy then takes credit for. A similar thing’s happened to Jessica Fletcher – chained to a bed and made to solve stuff for that twerp Dick Van Dyke.
October 30, 2008 at 1:27 pm
good piece. Im also a fan of russell and sad to see him go.
October 30, 2008 at 1:37 pm
The commercial radio stations’ll be champing at the bit to sign him up. Then, when this nonsense has been forgotten, he’ll go back to the BBC. For previous examples of this, see: Richard Bacon, Angus Deayton and the late, great Kenny Everett.
October 30, 2008 at 1:45 pm
I think Russell resigned for a combination of two contradictory reasons:
He felt genuinely sorry and wanted to make amends ( his nice side)
He felt aggreived and under attack, so decided to throw his toys out of the pram – ‘Let’s see how your ratings do without old russ!’ (his petulant childish side)
Anyone, who is a regular listener to the show will know that these sides to his character pretty much make up the man.
October 30, 2008 at 1:48 pm
So he didn’t resign because Messers Shadgrind, Goutgringe and Prole needed him back at his desk filling in an enormous ledger with a quill?
October 30, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Well put Charles, he is a contradictory character.
I wonder how this affects the forthcoming ‘revolution’ he’s planning?
Was Radio 2 his Golgotha?
October 30, 2008 at 1:53 pm
His Golgotha? You’re comparing him to Christ?
October 30, 2008 at 1:56 pm
He consistently compares himself to Christ for comic effect. This comment was for Charles, who would’ve seen the reference…
October 30, 2008 at 1:57 pm
My solution to this problem is to put Fawlty Towers on BBC1 forthwith for the next twelve weeks, so we can all have a good chuckle and live happily ever after. (Except wossy who must be put in the public stocks and sponges thrown at him).
October 30, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Ha ha ha! Comparing himself to Christ for ‘comic effect’, eh? Genius! Tell me, does he ever compare himself to the Prophet Mohammed for ‘comic effect’?
October 30, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I saw the reference swinesheads. thanks for calling me charles by the way. it makes me feel all grown up.
October 30, 2008 at 2:02 pm
how does the land lie with collins napoleon? I feel your only course of action is to resign forthwith.
October 30, 2008 at 2:02 pm
He compares himself to every religious icon, Napeoleon. It’s a 1,500 hour sketch but by jove is it worth it.
October 30, 2008 at 2:06 pm
As SH mentioned over at collins’ house last night, Matt Morgan must be really pissed off. he could have seen this coming a mile off.
October 30, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Ha ha ha! Comparing himself to Christ for ‘comic effect’, eh? Genius! Tell me, does he ever compare himself to the Prophet Mohammed for ‘comic effect’?
He has done, but the Mail didn’t take issue with that, funnily enough.
October 30, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Swineshead – Then fair play to him.
Mingles – I keep being proved wrong about Collins. I’m wondering if I shouldn’t abandon my fight against him, and go gunning for that rat Stuart Maconie instead.
October 30, 2008 at 2:14 pm
maconie would just kick the shit out of you. hes not nearly as fluffy as collings.
October 30, 2008 at 2:18 pm
You reckon? He’s only about three foot tall, ain’t he? Alright, that’s ball-height … but he’s not going to do any serious damage if I wear a box, is he?
A box and shinpads, thinking about it.
October 30, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Hes not that short I dont think. PLus all that hillwalking and listening to terrible 70’s freeform jazz rock for the freakzone tends to toughen you up.
October 30, 2008 at 2:22 pm
They should cut out Brand’s heart, write the word ‘TRAITOR’ on that heart, put the heart back in, and then he can walk around for the rest of his days knowing he’s got the word ‘TRAITOR’ written on his heart.
October 30, 2008 at 2:24 pm
I thought he was short? I’m not sure I believe you, Mingles.
October 30, 2008 at 2:28 pm
I think hes fairly short. But radcliffe is the really short one. hes virtually a midget, I believe.
October 30, 2008 at 2:35 pm
apparantly: theres a hero, if you look inside your heart … you dont have to be afraid of what you are.
thats reassuring. especially if youve just had your legs blown off by a landmine.
October 30, 2008 at 2:42 pm
It’s like telling the landmine victim to climb his own Everest.
October 30, 2008 at 2:47 pm
I wouldn’t mind winning a landmine in some sort of online board game type thing.
October 30, 2008 at 2:59 pm
#51 LANDMINES
Oh, I remember treading on a landmine when I was a boy, even though you can visibly see I do have the two legs, they were both blown off in THE SEVENTIES when I was a lad.
I have not just watched a video about landmines thirty seconds before saying this about my 51st favourite things, landmines. I love landmines.
October 30, 2008 at 2:59 pm
If you call that new board game HERO – Im in!
October 30, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Shows how much I know. I’ve just found out that Dead Set programme doesn’t follow the usual convention of going out weekly, but instead goes out daily. I wasn’t that enamoured of it, but was prepared to watch part two to give it a proper chance. Seems I can get fucked with my old-fashioned way of thinking about telly schedules – thanks, E4.
October 30, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Im quite enjoying dead set actually. better than I expected.
Did anyone see the national television awards last night? I wondered where john macain was getting his doddery old fuckwit coaching from. its trevor mcdonald. what a useless article.
October 30, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Mingles – It was going to be called ‘Andrew Coperation’, but I’ve now called a cease fire on Collins after finding out he’s nicer than St. Francis of Assisi crossed with Princess Diana and bunny. Instead, my new game will be called ‘ Stuart Macoperation’.
October 30, 2008 at 3:05 pm
I can see how you missed that NC as everytime Dead Set was mentioned the 4 words ‘broadcast over consecutive nights’ hit it in the rear so hard the show almost became entitled ‘Dead Set broadcast over consecutive nights’
October 30, 2008 at 3:09 pm
anyone else love the shitting in a bucket scene as much as i did?
October 30, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Me, I got rock hard
October 30, 2008 at 3:12 pm
I haven’t actually seen it advertised anywhere, Piqued. I only heard about it on here – I record anything worth watching on the commercial channels so I don’t have to watch the adverts. You lot should have made it clear on ‘ere that it was going out on consecutive nights, I reckon. You’re to blame, all of you – especially that crouchbacked monstrosity with his ponderous bloody essays about food, drinking and Conservative Party ‘Nazis’.
October 30, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Napoleon, just watch it on demand. It’s what I do, my living room’s non smoking so I hardly ever watch TV on a real TV. The last thing I used to watch was MOTD but that’s online as well now.
(Despite this, I still pay for Virgin Media)
October 30, 2008 at 3:12 pm
that wasnt really wot I meant like piqued – but thanks anyway.
We’d probably best not discuss this any further, I think Swineshead is planning a big review of this on monday.
October 30, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Is anyone aware of a way I can watch peaches geldof’s excretable new documentary about setting up her own magazine. they were discussing it on the word podcast this week and it sounds unmissable.
its on a channel I cant get on freeview (MTV1) and is not on youtube.
October 30, 2008 at 3:16 pm
NC, I’m hardly responsible for vast gaps in your knowledge am I?
(‘no’ is the answer)
October 30, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Ugeine – I don’t know if I can be arsed now. I feel betrayed.
Here! According to the BBC News site, Lilly Allen is preparing to make her comeback. Well thank fuck for that, says I. We’ve suffered the vacumn created by her abscence for far too long, I reckon.
October 30, 2008 at 3:20 pm
‘Vast’ gaps in my knowledge? I don’t know if I’d describe not knowing a silly zombie programme on a shit digital TV channel went out on consecutive nights as a ‘vast’ gap in my knowledge. I’d describe it as not seeing an advert.
October 30, 2008 at 3:23 pm
I understand, Napoleon. They changed Blue Peter from 3 – 5 nights a week and I couldn’t adapt. Mainly because of the piano lessons but I still se your point.
DOes anybody know of any way I can cancel my virgin tv service about 2 months after signing?
October 30, 2008 at 3:23 pm
I wouldn’t
BUT HAY KEAP REEDING PEAKED YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
October 30, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Anyone see the National TV Awards last night? No? good. It was really really shite. One good bit was david tennant announcing hes resigning as doctor who:
http://charliemingles.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/doctor-who/
any suggestoins who could replace him?
October 30, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Ugeine – I think you have to cut off and send them one of your hands.
Piqued – You wouldn’t because you’re a blithering idiot.
October 30, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Russell Brand is free I hear.
October 30, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Mingles – A block of wood? The cardboard tube from inside a toilet roll?
October 30, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Right. Can anybody tell me how to tie a parcel one handed? And time is a fctor here, I’m feeling a bit faint.
October 30, 2008 at 3:29 pm
they had the old blue peter team on that last night Napoleon – valerie singleton, peter purves and john noakes. noakesy looked like hes gone senile.
October 30, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Ugeine – Russell Brand would be rubbish as Doctor Who. A show of such towering importance (to eight year old boys, wearers of cagouls and paedophiles) needs an actor with genuine gravitas. Somebody like Danny Dyer, say?
October 30, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Ugeine – I’ve just read in my Virgin Media bumf that it’s a foot you need to cut off, not a hand. Sorry about that.
October 30, 2008 at 3:31 pm
I mention brand ugeine in my post:
http://charliemingles.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/doctor-who/
October 30, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Keith Allen for Dr Who.
October 30, 2008 at 3:34 pm
On an entirely different subject, was that thing about Mark Almond drinking so much jism he had to be hospitalised an urban myth? I only ask because I watched an independent arthouse movie last night where up-and-coming actress Sasha Gray drank gallons of the stuff, and she seemed alright.
October 30, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Keith Allen, I agree.
October 30, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Honest mistake Napoleon.
*convulses*
October 30, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Dave – stop pretending to be someone other than yourself or I’m fucking banning you, it’s not remotely funny.
First and last warning.
October 30, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Stephen Merchant for the new Doctor Who – obvious. hed be fucking superb.
October 30, 2008 at 3:36 pm
I thought it was quite funny actually SH. its dave trademark – like brucie wth his catchphrases and that weird effeminate kick he used to do.
October 30, 2008 at 3:37 pm
You can tell if the same person is posting under different names, you know.
October 30, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Barry George for Dr Who.
Everyone deserves a 2nd/3rd chance.
October 30, 2008 at 3:38 pm
He’s been doing the same thing on my site, the bastard. He managed to make Andrew Collins look like a humourless, law-threatening misery-guts until the real Andrew Collins showed up and proved that he isn’t. It’s part of the reason I’ve given up and gone gunning for Stuart Maconie instead.
October 30, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Independent arthouse actress Sasha Gray would make a good Doctor Who. She would add much-needed glamour to the role and – boy! – can she swallow one bucketload of jism!
October 30, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Russell Tovey was mentioned by someone connected to Doctor Who. He has jug ears though so may not get it.
October 30, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Or, if Sasha’s not to your taste, how’s about this fella?
October 30, 2008 at 3:48 pm
nice photo napoleon.
October 30, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Or maybe these two?
October 30, 2008 at 3:50 pm
superb
October 30, 2008 at 3:51 pm
that last one is fucking hilarious
October 30, 2008 at 3:51 pm
It’s Dog Van Dyke!
(I’ll stop now)
October 30, 2008 at 3:52 pm
middle one was the best. those two shold have their own show solving crimes.
October 30, 2008 at 3:52 pm
How about a real Doctor playing Doctor Who? Perhaps Dr. Ahmed in Tooting, don’t know if he can act mind you…
Btw, which institution granted Doctor Who his doctorate? I don’t know of any Timelord courses, personally I think it’s a fucking sham
I bet he doesn’t even have an O level
October 30, 2008 at 3:55 pm
he went to thunderwood I believe:
http://thunderwoodcollege.com/
You can get anything there. in about 5 minutes.
October 30, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Piqued raises an interesting point. It would be nice to see Doctor Who behind a desk in a surgery dispensing prescriptions for once, instead of gallivanting about the universe fighting truly awful examples of cheap CGI. We had a doctor in our village who would have been perfick for the role … though he would have to curb his inclinations to look at your cock and balls every time you came to see him with a sore throat.
October 30, 2008 at 3:57 pm
for NC
October 30, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Watch the freedom of the independent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm89NFyCQR8&sdig=1
Ranty and sweary and funny
October 30, 2008 at 4:00 pm
That was rather nice, Mingles. I achieved a doctorate in Human Resource Management in seconds. What a wonderful world the internet is (apart from all them videos of women sucking donkey cocks and Al-Kayeeda botched executions).
October 30, 2008 at 4:03 pm
you can get a degree in them too napoleon. did you watch the clip piqued put up. that inyerviewer woman is a bit of a hypocrite is she not.
Poor wee sasha. you suck a couple of thousand cocks on film and suddenly youre the antichrist. its political correctness gone mad.
October 30, 2008 at 4:05 pm
That mother really put fair Sasha in her place, didn’t she just? I’ll wager she’ll think twice the next time she’s confronted with twenty men’s parts after that drubbing.
October 30, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Mingles – I know. What this mother fails to appreciate is Sasha has a natural talent for swallowing ten inches of throbbing man meat whilst a musclebound, grunting bugger takes her up the dirtbox. This mother woman would deny the world this singular young lady’s talents on the flimsy excuse that her own daughter ended up a crushed and broken shell. It’s political correctness gone mad.
October 30, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Having solved the brand/ross pickle (FawltyTowers to be on BBC1 forthwith), I have now come up with the ideal candidate for Dr. Who.
Eric Cantona.
October 30, 2008 at 4:11 pm
I know, when you actually see these blue films all the actresses look very happy to be engulfed in streams of liquid beef. It’s political correctness gone mad
October 30, 2008 at 4:13 pm
My owner robbed me of my dignity!
October 30, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Piqued – Exactly! Sasha looked like the cat that had (literally) got the cream when those twenty men unloaded their butter into her mouth in that independent arthouse production I watched yesterday for research purposes. It’s political correctness gone mad!
October 30, 2008 at 4:17 pm
A French Dr Who? Never.
Robin Cook’s corpse on strings would be my choice.
October 30, 2008 at 4:18 pm
I havent seen any of sashas work, but i shall be supporting her from now on.
What with this and brand going too – you know what this is a typical example of dont you ..?
October 30, 2008 at 4:19 pm
One for the fellas …
October 30, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Mingles – Political correctness gone mad?
October 30, 2008 at 4:21 pm
indeed it is napoleon. how did you guess.
Great photo that last one.
October 30, 2008 at 4:21 pm
A stand-up I watched the t’other week made a good joke about political correctness gone mad. Ha ha!
October 30, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Political correctness never just pushes it a bit, does it? Or maybe overstretch the mark a little bit? Just goes straight for the mad.
October 30, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Sites such as T’n’A Flix and Tube8 display some of Sasha’s finest arthouse installations in a grainy, streamed format you can watch when the missus has retired for the evening. The internet has to be thanked for introducing so many more men to the wonderful world of independent cinema.
October 30, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Liquid beef? Yuk!
October 30, 2008 at 4:25 pm
its the new thing dave. all the hip young dudes are saying. this political correctness thing – apparantly it hath verilly goneth mad.
*selects a real ale from the bar*
October 30, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Ugeine – No, it doesn’t. It careens into lunacy at the drop of a hat. Did you know that in my town they’ve only gone and banned Christmas in case it offends the Yogic Flying community? You couldn’t make it up!
October 30, 2008 at 4:27 pm
There was a French Federation starship Captain, of the Enterprise no less.
So why not a French Dr. Who? We need a Frenchist list!
Who ahh, Can – To – Na. !!
October 30, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Clarry – Come on, love. Don’t tell me you haven’t taken a few doses of that special medicine we doctors call ‘liquid beef’? I assume you know it’s a scientifically proven cure for sore throats? And fevers? And malaria, bad joints, gout, hangovers and wind?
And cancer?
October 30, 2008 at 4:31 pm
What’s this about the French?
October 30, 2008 at 4:31 pm
In the light of recent press, Andrew Sachs
You could call him Dr. Que?
October 30, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Most people confuse political correctness for health and safety though
‘they’re putting safety rails on mugs of tea incase we fall in, it’s political correctness gone mad!’
October 30, 2008 at 4:32 pm
I knew it cured cancer NC. But thanks for passing on those other cures.
But prey! what has kept this information from getting into the public domain sooner …?
October 30, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Surely Sachs is only capable of playing a capering monkey man who’s continuously being kicked around by a tall, bad-tempered man with an awful wife? I don’t seem to recall seeing him do anything else.
October 30, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Mmm, you may have a point, seem to recall that was a bit, well, racist too… we don’t want sorts like that playing the good Dr.
Who else?
Russell Brand?
October 30, 2008 at 4:37 pm
I thought it was public knowledge, Mingles? I’ve been prescribing my other half 10ccs of fresh spangle (to be taken twice daily) for years now, and she’s never had a day off work in all the time I’ve known her. She does, I’ll admit, look at me with pure poison in her eyes every now and again … but nobody said medicine didn’t have side-effects.
October 30, 2008 at 4:37 pm
My own suggestion of the excellent stephen merchant appears to have been overlooked. kirsten over at mingles HQ suggests matt berry. hed be very interesting.
October 30, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Hang on, isn’t hysterical overreaction over a poor taste joke a hallmark of political correctness gone mad?
October 30, 2008 at 4:38 pm
The Christmas special will be called ‘The Next Doctor’, so perhaps we’ll find out then.
ACE!
October 30, 2008 at 4:38 pm
its the original snake-oil napoleon. the miracle cure-all.
October 30, 2008 at 4:39 pm
It’s just a revolting turn of phrase. I couldn’t believe my ears the other night on ‘Embarrassing Teenages Illnesses’ – one girl, when asked what euphemism she gave her monthly blight, said she called it her ‘dripping burger’. Frankly, I find that hard to believe, and stomach!
October 30, 2008 at 4:39 pm
It’s just a revolting turn of phrase. I couldn’t believe my ears the other night on ‘Embarrassing Teenage Illnesses’ – one girl, when asked what euphemism she gave her monthly blight, said she called it her ‘dripping burger’. Frankly, I find that hard to believe, and stomach!
October 30, 2008 at 4:40 pm
dripping burger
SEXUAL FRENZY
October 30, 2008 at 4:40 pm
It’s just a revolting turn of phrase. I couldn’t believe my ears the other night on ‘Embarrassing Teenage Illnesses’ – one girl, when asked what euphemism she gave her monthly blight, said she called it her ‘dripping burger’. Frankly, I find that hard to believe, and stomach!
October 30, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Piqued – Unless I missed a meeting, Spaniards are still the same race as Englishmen, aren’t they? I think you meant to say ‘xenophobic’ there, didn’t you?
On the subject of health and safety, did you know that I should have fire exit signs above my doors because my home is also my workplace? You really, really couldn’t make it up.
October 30, 2008 at 4:40 pm
in fact, I remember my great-grandfather going round the country in a covered wagon selling the stuff in bottles for a fortune. they hung him up from a lamp=post and chopped off his goolies.
Even back then in 1903 – political correctness was starting to go at least a little bit mad.
October 30, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Mingles – Two brilliant suggestions that would make me tune in week on week.
October 30, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Hello? Is WordPress fucking up again?
October 30, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Why, a harmless old man cant even travel round the country selling his spunk in bottles as sure-fire cancer cure these days.
October 30, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Mingles – He sold the stuff in bottles? I don’t know about that! As a medical man, I’ve always advised my female patients to partake of this wonder drug fresh from the source. Surely bottling it would cause it to lose some of its potency?
October 30, 2008 at 4:46 pm
I, too, have been stripped of my dignity.
October 30, 2008 at 4:48 pm
‘Hey mum’
‘Yes darling?’
‘When you go to the supermarket could you get me some sanitary towels, my burger’s dripping’.
*stunned silence*
October 30, 2008 at 4:48 pm
*wanks*
October 30, 2008 at 4:49 pm
That was probably his mistake Napoleon, indeed. thats possibly why they hung him up and chopped off his knackers. If hed only thought to offer the cure direct from source, hed probably be alive today.
its often the case with these maverick scientists though. they just dont think these mundsane practicalities through.
October 30, 2008 at 4:50 pm
keep these photos coming napoleon. superb.
October 30, 2008 at 4:52 pm
NP: What if you hired somebody, got a bout of Soap-Opera-Amnesia, forgot you hired anybody, started cooking with a chip pan, got attacked by a bear, ran out the house and found that your Amnesia had caused the death of your co-worker? DISASTER, that’s what.
October 30, 2008 at 4:54 pm
They taught me that on day one of my medical degree, Mingles. I believe day two covered the medical benefits of spooge emptied all over a patient’s hair, face and tits.
October 30, 2008 at 4:54 pm
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/article1874998.ece
slideshow is worth a look
October 30, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Plus, why on earth would a teenager who is too embarassed to go to the doctor with their scabby fanny or dire case of knob-itis, find it any less embarrassing to reveal it to the nation via this prog? I don’t geddit, but tune in without fail.
October 30, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Do they actually show scabbed-up fannies and rotten cocks, Clarry? If so, that’s a fucking disgrace, and the Daily Mail should be made aware of it immediately.
Those pumpkin things are very good, by the way.
October 30, 2008 at 4:59 pm
I remember speaking to a girl who announced that when she got excited it was mayonnaise on a kebab.
I never spoke to it ever again.
October 30, 2008 at 4:59 pm
pumpkin sculptures are excellent. not as good as the dogs in costume though
October 30, 2008 at 5:00 pm
‘itchy fanny’ ‘dripping burger’ These are the four words which have made me realise homosexuality is the way for me. Cheers, Clarry.
October 30, 2008 at 5:00 pm
This is a work of genius!
October 30, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Turner prize that dog.
October 30, 2008 at 5:03 pm
I would have liked to have seen that dog dressed as Captain Hook – 5/10
October 30, 2008 at 5:08 pm
King of the Kennel
October 30, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Yes, NC, they ACTUALLY show them. In full technicolour. One boy on Monday’s show had thrush and they showed it close up, with the foreskin pulled right back. Put me right off my tea…
Ugeine – I very much doubt normal women use these phrases, they’re reserved for young adults who wish to appear ‘ker-azy’ or that they don’t give a fuck. Burger is not a word women tend to use when referring to their fannies.
October 30, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Clarry – C’mon, sugatits, say some more o’ that filth! The cannon’s charged and ready to fire ‘ere …
October 30, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Apologies if this is old news, but Ive just heard that george lamb/ray davies interview.
now THIS IS FUCKING OFFENSIVE. What a fucking smug talentless twat lamb is. he should have been sacked on the fucking spot for this:
CUNT!
October 30, 2008 at 5:14 pm
‘One boy on Monday’s show had thrush and they showed it close up, with the foreskin pulled right back. Put me right off my tea…’
Fuck it, I’m going Morrissey.
October 30, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Can’t you sum it up for us, Mingles? I can’t be arsed with these bloody YouTube clips.
October 30, 2008 at 5:16 pm
What does Morrissey do, Ugeine? Is he like Dave? Pushing stuff up his own arse and wanking in the dark?
October 30, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Well, he hates foreigners, NP. But, aside from that, he’s celibate. However, with a face like that I don’t think it’s his decision…
October 30, 2008 at 5:20 pm
At least I don’t dress up as an 18th century rifleman, taking to the streets raping diseased vagabonds.
October 30, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Dave, you do that most Wednesdays.
October 30, 2008 at 5:22 pm
I only did it the one time, and that was after a Libertines gig so it was obligatory.
October 30, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Napoleon – it can be summed up by the phrase: george lamb is as ever a smug talentless cunt, who pointlessly irritates a perfectly nice middle-aged man.
worth listening to if youre needing to get yourself all wound-up for some reason.
theres very few times I owuld advocate extreme violence. but please everyone listen to this and then tell me you wouldnt want to kick the little fucker into next week.
October 30, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Ugeine – You’re missing one important point here: Morrissey has money. Women are like bloodhounds when it comes to a man’s bank account; they can smell money from miles away. Morrissey’s boot-ugliness hasn’t left him bereft of female company – it’s the fact he’s a MISERABLE TWAT that’s done that.
October 30, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Napoleon; That’s far more logical. I suppose you can close your eyes when he’s in the buff but you can’t close your ears for all the time he spends bitching about veganism and the like unless you surgically sow them up.
October 30, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Go listen to your pointless crap, NC. We Manchester folk will isten to the real music – eh?
Go watch a fucking pantomime with chords.
October 30, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Charles – I did a review of Lamb’s podcast over here…
https://watchwithmothers.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/the-george-lamb-podcast-6-music/
…just in case you fancy a read.
October 30, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Ray can take it. He’s had to put up with his brother for decades, after all.
So far I’ve managed to hear none of this George Lamb fella’s stuff. I don’t know if I want to besmirch my perfect record by listening to the clip you posted.
October 30, 2008 at 5:33 pm
I think I read that already SH. It was just this particular interview I was alluding to:
October 30, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Dave – Did I have a go at the man’s music? No! You just jumped to conclusions, didn’t you, you freaky little bum onion?
October 30, 2008 at 5:33 pm
I heart Morrissey, he’s not ugly and he’s not a miserable twat. So there!
October 30, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Clarry – You’re a woman, and women have the worst taste in music in the world. Your opinion on Morrissey is voided by your sex, I’m afraid.
Now c’mon, sugatits, let’s hear some more about dripping beefburgers – I’m seconds away from jizzing ‘ere.
October 30, 2008 at 5:40 pm
NAPOLEON: LIST
October 30, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Napoleon: that comment was accidentally cc’d to Clarry’s grandfather.
I expect your resignation on Swinesheads desk first thing tomorrow morning.
October 30, 2008 at 5:43 pm
I’ve been riding at the top of the sexist list since the day it was founded, Swineshead. Are you saying I’m being put on some damnfool secondary list now?
You look like a buzzard.
October 30, 2008 at 5:45 pm
hes right about womens music taste though
October 30, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Mingles – I was thinking of issuing this apology after I’d spent four hours making my hair look messy and my clothes look fashionably rumpled,
“Oooo, missus! I’m, like, awfully MORTIFIED that I, Napoleon, ‘ave, like, gone and offended Clarry’s grandfaaaver, and all that. I didn’t fink my foughts frew, did I? Didn’t fink ’em frew because I’m a frabtious bumpkinated dingle-dangler what don’t know what’s coming out of ‘is mouth from one minute to the next. Mind you, I ‘ave to say, in my defence, that I did find what I said very funny. NAY! NAY! AND THRICE NAY!”
October 30, 2008 at 5:50 pm
very moving
October 30, 2008 at 5:53 pm
I believe it sets the right tone, Mingles.
What’s that?
They found it flippant, did they?
Hmm …
*throws toys out of pram*
I RESIGN!
October 30, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Hello. The boss of Radio 2’s resigned now.
October 30, 2008 at 5:59 pm
for real? fuck me.
October 30, 2008 at 6:01 pm
im off to watch the news then and then the zombies.
October 30, 2008 at 6:23 pm
CM: I lasted about 10 seconds of that interview but that twat made me want to vomit. I might try and get to the offensive stuff later, but as a radio personality he’s a cunt. I can’t believe they let him near a set of vocal chords, let alone an actual radio show.
October 30, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Just went onto i player to watch the new buzzcocks, and it’s not there. So I go to wikipedia and it says the fucking thing has been postponed. Why? What fucking damage can a fucking programme recorded six fucking weeks ago broadcast after the watershed do to the nation? Is Brand suddenly so vulgar that even the sight of him sends several thousand middle england cunts into convulsions of self righteous anger? Is he going to jump out the fucking screen and start insulting their grandparents?
Oh, no, it’s because the BBC’s way of dealing with this matter is to just bend over. Does it even matter if it’s rational any more? Let’s destroy all previous footage the BBC holds of Jonathan Ross! Let’s let everybody that was outraged at this whole shit storm kick Russell in the balls, one by one!
To think, a week ago I found one of them kind of funny if a bit annoying at times and the other one a semi decent host of an alright chatshow and a kind of listenable radio presenter. I think my estimation of them has gone up tenfold simply because of the way they’re been treated.
At least Russell Brand’s next stand up should be funny.
October 30, 2008 at 10:15 pm
I hope he doesn’t use this as a Howard Stern career arc… that’d stink.
October 31, 2008 at 7:23 am
taking a risk here but this “debacle” – is this to be compared to the US culture wars (coast vs inland, liberal elite vs rednecks and hockey moms)? is this a rural “silent majority” front against “overpaid arrogant immoral london media types”?
October 31, 2008 at 8:20 am
Thanks to the BBC and the size of our country I don’t think we could ever get that polarised. Plus, I live in Northampton and I’m not a media type. It’s just a plain old moral panic.
October 31, 2008 at 8:21 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1081927/LITTLEJOHN-Were-mad-hell-DONT-more.html
Guess who’s calling for the end of the BBC! Makes a change from fabricating crap about health and safety laws and obsessing over gay people.
October 31, 2008 at 8:24 am
What will they do when the Torys get in?
October 31, 2008 at 11:46 am
Peeved that for some reason, I forgot to post this on ~BMTV as well as my FB blog…
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/note.php?note_id=89646245715&id=833255203&index=0
October 31, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Disgusting though it is when a licence fee-financed network censors according to tabloids, I confess I have no sympathy for a pair of cocks who produce little of merit and whose careers are more likely to be forwarded by the publicity than hindered.
October 31, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Fair enough JQW, I’ve tried to keep my opinion of Ross and Brand to the side throughout this as it’s irrelevant – I’m just glad a consensus is being reached that they shouldn’t have been suspended and shoul’ve been made to apologise sooner to nip it in the bud. The BBC should’ve handled this better by looking after their employees, timing things right and sticking their Vs up at the fucking Mail.
October 31, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Yar, naturally it’s my opinion that they’re cocks. Some good folks might bring them home for tea with their grannies. It’s that bird wot he shagged what needs stringing up and burning, YEAH?!£
October 31, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Swineshead incorrectly commented at 9:44 yesterday that Ross and Brand did not break the law.
They violated Section 1 of the Malicious Communications Act 1998, Section 43 of the Telecommunications Act 1984, Section 92 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, (all of which may possibly be bundled into one offense) and Section 4 of the Public Order Act 1986. And all of this unrelated to the fact that it was also broadcast.
That they got paid to do it takes it to a whole other level of impropriety. It is not a matter of censorship. Why should they be entitled to break the law and be paid to do it just because someone else might find it entertaining?
It is not the fault of the Daily Mail that they did this. The Mail and other newspapers (and surely you have seen it in all the broadsheets as well) just brought it to the attention of the license fee-paying public.
October 31, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Thanks for the correction Sol. I maintain it’s a petty offence, and if it wasn’t on the radio the police would not have taken it seriously. They haven’t taken it seriously and it was on the radio. What do you make of that?
I’m not defending it and never have, mind you.
All the same, the Mail has proved itself hypocritical by printing even more salacious stories about Sachs’ granddaughter than anything Brand discussed. That stinks.
It’s one thing being a childish idiot who gets paid too much, it’s quite another to be part of a machine that’s using underhand tactics to derail a fine institution because they represent a threat to commercial interests.
Brand may have broken a petty law, I won’t dispute that – but I think you should know that you’re defending the indefensible. Look further than the swearing and the idiocy and you might just see that you’ve just aided a bunch of misguided blabbermouths who themselves are (possibly unknowingly) assisting the publishing industry in an attempt to bring down the BBC.
Say hello to Littlejohn for me, and let him know he’s a cunt.
October 31, 2008 at 10:04 pm
I think the reason the police didn’t get involved was because Andrew Sachs made no complaint. The police do get involved in obscene phone call cases that do not have anything to radio or celebrity. These cases are difficult to prosecute because of paucity of evidence.
I don’t deny or defend the Mail’s hypocrisy. We are all hypocrites at times. They are just trying to sell newspapers.
I don’t know Littlejohn, but if I did, I would pass on your well-wishes.
November 1, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Fraudulent thieves are ‘just trying to make money’ Sol – what kind of excuse is that for their behaviour?
They’ve incited mania to sell papers. They’re irresponsible distorters of the truth.
This was a badly thought out gag that reached a stupid level of idiocy. I don’t approve. But I also don’t think it’s worth sacking people over a silly mistake.
There’re plenty of things on the BBC I don’t approve of, but the fact that I think George Lamb is an idiot doesn’t mean I’m going to stop paying my licence fee. If it wasn’t for the mail milking this, nobody would’ve known or cared and Sachs, Brand and Ross (not to mention background staff at the BBC) would all have been better off. Georgina B, The Mail and News of the World will all PROFIT from it. Funny that, eh?
Don’t blindly believe (or pretend) that this isn’t about weakening the BBC. If you do, you’re an idiot.